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Great! Definitely looking forward to playing through the game with joystick on Steam Deck.

Are you looking at compression techniques to gain some memory or has that horse already left the barn?

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Are you looking at compression techniques to gain some memory or has that horse already left the barn?

All the easy picks have already been taken, all the data is compressed on disk, but the problem here is memory.
There are solutions but they would require a massive refactoring:

• Text compression would be quite effective but would require creating tooling to compress the text, and then all the code that handles text (there's a lot of it) would have to be modified and would get much slower.
• Having scripts loaded with the bitmap would be the most logical way to go, but that would mean restructuring the entire game script and split parts which are always in memory and the ones who are only available when you are at a specific location
• Switching from the LCC65 to one of the other C compilers, but that would require basically rewriting/converting all the assembler code and redo all the in-memory code structure (and probably discover other issues along the way)

So the only reasonable approach on this project is to continue what I was doing, which is to convert the largest C functions into assembler.

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So the only reasonable approach on this project is to continue what I was doing, which is to convert the largest C functions into assembler.

Would love to hear more about this with as much detail as you can muster, personally. This is a very interesting topic to me.

Did you see this on HN recently?

“Explaining my fast 6502 code generator”
https://pubby.games/codegen.html

Some interesting advices given in the HN thread:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43036903

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I don't read Hacker News, so no.

Regarding NESFab, it's not really comparable, it's not C, it's a custom language.
A large part of the performance issue of C cannot be fixed because it's dictated by the language (like rules on implicit integer casting, etc...) which a custom language can fix.

Another issue is that some of the optimizations are exactly what I don't want:

Lastly, there is loop unrolling and other optimizations that trade space efficiency for speed, which is hard to compare fairly when benchmarking different compilers.

When you are struggling for bytes, the last thing you want is loop unrolling

Other than that, interesting article, thanks

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Big update of the game, with a new version of Oricutron and a complete new control system (in addition to the existing one) that uses the joystick.

1.1.0
- Modified the settings menu to be more reactive and have the joystick options at the bottom
- Support for joystick interfaces (IJK, Pase, Opel, Dk'Tronic)
- New control scheme using four direction joysticks and single button selection usable on both Oric and Steam Deck devices
- Updated Oricutron to a more recent version with better controllers handling, removal of the status bar, immersive mode, etc...

You can see how this new control scheme work on this video (in English only)



I tested the Steam Deck version on my device, but I've no way to guarantee that the controls have been setup properly as a "default", so ideally would be nice to have someone double check that.

The controller scheme I made is called "all arrows".

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Had a bit of a play .. joystick mode is very smooth and well implemented and I got quite a bit further in the game than ever before. It plays well on the Stem Deck joypad and controller interface.

A couple of times I managed to get dropped out of a joystick-friendly mode to a text-only field, and whatever joystick motions I made, I only got letters like 'elrr' and no way to 'escape', and so had to reset the game .. its some sort of button mashing but i have not worked out exactly which ..

When I take it slow, I get through the scenes. Its very smooth and impressive. Will try to play it on a real Atmos soon, but you've managed to get the mechanics right for Steam Deck, imho.

Only question I have, is, what should I set the joystick option on the beginning, or doesn't it matter on Steam Deck?

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A couple of times I managed to get dropped out of a joystick-friendly mode to a text-only field, and whatever joystick motions I made, I only got letters like 'elrr' and no way to 'escape', and so had to reset the game .. its some sort of button mashing but i have not worked out exactly which ..

Would be interesting to have a video to see what you did, if possible.

Only question I have, is, what should I set the joystick option on the beginning, or doesn't it matter on Steam Deck?

Does not matter on the Steam Deck because it's doing the remapping itself of sending the inputs as arrow keys and key presses, but if you were to play on a PC with a joystick, then you would have to select IJK.

I could make IJK a default, but I'm not sure if that could cause problem on Oric machines without a IJK interface, or with a printer connected.

Glad you liked the mechanics

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I believe I found the problem, my custom layout was not properly set-up on the Steamworks page, now you should have the "All arrows" set by default, no more weird letters!

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So, current status of the game:

• There is a new alternative control system using some menu system to select actions and items
• The Steam Deck version is out, with a default layout that should work nicely
• The free demo is updated with the new controls
• The game is on sales for a week

Here is what the new controls look like:

encounter_alternative_controls.gif (30.67 KiB) Viewed 499 times

And the sales pitch

And here are the Steam and Itch links.

Now for the future of the game, there was some confused messages on the CEO forum, so here is a clarification:

Yes the game will be free to download at some point on Oric.org, and there will be a (very very) limited run of physical versions if I can get my floppy disk to work again. (The game will stay for sale on Steam and Itch even after it is available for free, but probably like at 5 euros instead of 10)

This will happen when the game is considered finished 100%, the reason being I don't want to see a version 0.x or whatever present in the game archives, I want people who check the game to see the game in its final form.

We are obviously close to the final form of the game, there may be other things added like the QR Code and the global online leaderboard, possibly trying to get some additional alternative interactions (like using the apples), and possibly some built-in games (game console, computer, ...) based on how much memory and disk space I find.

So anyway, it's on sale if you feel like buying the game, and if you are one of the persons who already bought the game (thanks you!) please put some review on itch or steam, reaching 10 reviews on steam would greatly help with the visibility of the game on the platform.

Thanks everybody and have a nice week end