IJK-egoist new joystick interface by [raxiss]

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Awesome work!
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Wonderful
And the game PUT UP is another AAA diamond to use with this IJK stick
Thanks, i'll be happy to acquire an interface (or build one) to play this game
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Excellent work!

But just to check: I did pre-order an 8Bit Hub that also promises joystick support. Also pre-ordered the Twilighte board again promissing joystick support. Both will essentially provide me the same as the IJK-egoist in joystick support, right? Just want to avoid ordering basically twice the same thing (more than I already did that is).

But even if I would not need it myself: cheap and easy ubuiqitous joystick support for Oric also will make other solutions more valuable.... So great!
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First post updated!
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iss wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:13 pm First post updated!
First post updated again!
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ordered in your new shop on tindie.
thanks
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Received and works great! Software code to include in my own game also did work, can now control my own game with the gamepad.
Very happy! Easy, elegant and well working solution.

Just one question / request: would it also be possible to make DSK images of the IJK game collection? I hate to constantly have to switch between my Erebus and Cumana Reborn collected. And unless I do something wrong, I found out that it is not as easy as just converting with TAP2DSK as that fails to load past the first loader.
Is that conversion to DSK easy to do? And if yes, how?
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xahmol wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:13 pm Received and works great! Software code to include in my own game also did work, can now control my own game with the gamepad.
Very happy! Easy, elegant and well working solution.
@xahmol: I'm glad you are satisfied! And the post delivery was really fast :).

My wish was to release a complete "Oric-gamer solution" - nice made hardware, backed with lot of software, ported or developed exclusively for IJK-egoist interface. This took me lot of time and delayed the planed release with months. I'm working to finish adaptation of some more games and I'll update the downloads regularly. All feedback and wishes are welcome!

About the DSK release: hmmm, you know, I have an idea :idea:, this will unfreeze another (almost forgotten) project...
Will see, it should work with all DSK-based peripherals! Hopefully I'll resurrect it quick :D
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Hello Rax & Iss, i've received my ijk egoist interface (wife's gift for christmas)
Thanks a lot for this jewel.

I've already tried with loading done by maxduino :
- interface test : working fine (for my left hand :D )
- oric munch : ok
- styx : the loader didn't find the second part after the intro :!:

Please find below some pics
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Hello,

I am very interested by your interface, very well designed. But I have a question : by looking at the photos of the interface, I can see that the switch (for Joystick 1 or 2) is very close to a capacitor. I feel like moving the switch may let your finger push the capacitor.
Is this exact ?
Do we have to often switch between Joystick 1 and 2 ?
Can we use the switch while the Oric is turned on ?

Thanks !
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@dizzy33: Thanks for the interest and good questions :).
...moving the switch may let your finger push the capacitor.
The micro-switch and the capacitor are close, but the switch can be easy manipulated with fingers - no danger for mechanical damages on both (capacitor and switch). It's possible to use a tool (tweezers, small screw-driver, ball-pen, etc) to operate the switch too.
Do we have to often switch between Joystick 1 and 2 ?
No, not often. I didn't found a game which requires right joystick so far.
All the provided 30+ games use the left one and only very, very few of them have the option to select left or right joystick to be used.
Can we use the switch while the Oric is turned on ?
Yes, you can use the switch while the Oric is turned on and it's safe to do so!
The change is immediate and you can continue to work with newly selected joystick.
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Excellent, thanks a lot for your quick answer. I'll order one.
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I just received the interface. From a hardware point of view, it's very well designed.
But, if you own an Erebus to load games, this interface is totally useless !
And I think the problem comes from something simple : all the games which have been modified to be compatible with the IJK ( downloaded here : https://iss.sandacite.com/iss/ijk/# ), have been added an intro (from Raxiss). This intro makes the game becoming multipart, which cannot be handled by the Erebus. So after the intro is displayed, then the game does not continue to load. If the intro was removed, then I am pretty sure the games would work fine.

As long as these added intros will remain in the game file, they will not be loaded by the Erebus.
The only IJK games working with the Erebus are the native IJK games (not modified), which seems to confirm that the issue comes from the intro added to each game by Raxiss.
It's a very big issue as the Erebus, as far as I know, is the only SD card interface for the Oric.

Is it possible to remove these intros from the game files ? Of course, I guess this would have to be done by Raxiss.
If no, then I think it would be good to advise on the orderging website about this IJK interface that it's not compatible with the Erebus.

Here is the list of not compatible games (21 games are not working out of 29 !) :

3D Fongus
Acheron
Chopper
Defence Force
Dracula
Fireflash
Ghostgobbler
Harrier Attack
Hellion
Hopper
Hunchback
Invaders
Lightcycle
Manic Miner
Mushroom
Oricmunch
Probe 3
Styx
The Ultra
Xenon 1
Zorgons Revenge

Do these games exist in an IJK release which would not have been modified with an intro like Raxiss did, and therefore known as compatible with the Erebus ?
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>It's a very big issue as the Erebus, as far as I know, is the only SD card interface for the Oric.


Cumana Reborn ..
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Cumana reborn emulates a floppy, I need a tape emulator (as all Oric games are available in tape format, not all games are available in disk format).

Where can we find IJK releases of games, which would not have been modified with an intro like Raxiss did, known as compatible with the Erebus ?
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