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Oricutron disks and tapes

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:18 pm
by Steve M
When you load a disk in Oricutron, is it then possible to CSAVE a file ? It seems to fail but I seem to recall CSAVEing previously ?
It seems for me that if I convert a real tape to Oric disk, then convert the disk to a disk image, I should be able to CSAVE a file back to create a tape image - but it doesn't seem to work. (I think this worked in Euphoric ?)

I guess this isn't the best way to do things but I already have a few things converted to disk images.

Re: Oricutron disks and tapes

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:20 am
by christian
It's a bug.

When you use a disk (Microdisk, Jasmin, ...) with Oricutron, CSAVE and CLOAD don't work.
It was first reported by Kiwilevrai on http://forums.oric.org/ and I opened an issue on Github some time ago https://github.com/pete-gordon/oricutron/issues/115
I found the solution but I forgot to do the PR :oops:

Re: Oricutron disks and tapes

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:25 pm
by Steve M
Is there any chance of this being fixed?
I've tried to contact Peter G before but not had any response.

Re: Oricutron disks and tapes

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:29 pm
by christian
Yes, I think.
I will submit a Pull Request with the fix on Github.

Re: Oricutron disks and tapes

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:12 am
by Steve M
Excellent !! :)

Re: Oricutron disks and tapes

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:10 am
by christian
Pull Request submitted, waiting for review

Re: Oricutron disks and tapes

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:55 pm
by christian
The fix was accepted and merged in the repository yesterday.

Re: Oricutron disks and tapes

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:59 pm
by iss
Thanks for the fix! Tested and it works fine for me.
(Developer builds and OricExos emulator updated: 2019-09-05) :)

Re: Oricutron disks and tapes

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:34 pm
by Steve M
I've also noticed a problem with tapes, for example adventure games, where you can save your progress. The saving doesn't work.
On a real Oric you would usually insert a blank tape to save game data. I don't know if there is a way of switching tapes like this under emulation?
(I think it worked on Euphoric?)

Re: Oricutron disks and tapes

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:46 pm
by Steve M
iss wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:59 pm
Thanks for the fix! Tested and it works fine for me.
(Developer builds and OricExos emulator updated: 2019-09-05) :)
Cool. If I download the files do I just need to copy the oricutron.exe across?

I've got Win7 64bit. I'm not certain if my Oricutron is the Win32 or Win64 version. How can I tell ?

Re: Oricutron disks and tapes

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:33 pm
by iss
Steve M wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:46 pm
I've got Win7 64bit. I'm not certain if my Oricutron is the Win32 or Win64 version. How can I tell ?
With Win7 64bit you can download Oricutron_win64-20190905.zip and extract only the oricutron.exe to your currently used directory.
It will work no matter if old version is 32 or 64 bit. In my builds the executable doesn't need additional DLL(s).
If you want to keep old version you can change the name of new executable to something like oricutron-new.exe.

Re: Oricutron disks and tapes

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:00 pm
by Steve M
Thanks! :)

Re: Oricutron disks and tapes

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:59 pm
by kaydav
Steve M wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:34 pm
I've also noticed a problem with tapes, for example adventure games, where you can save your progress. The saving doesn't work.
On a real Oric you would usually insert a blank tape to save game data. I don't know if there is a way of switching tapes like this under emulation?
(I think it worked on Euphoric?)
I was thinking maybe the Save Snapshot option would work here? It would let you save progress, although you wouldn't actually be using the SAVE command of the game to do it. There's also a Save Tape Output option (F9), which I haven't tried.

Re: Oricutron disks and tapes

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:20 am
by Dbug
I've been using the SAVE/LOAD snapshot with some games which were too hard to use with the load/save feature, but that was with Euphoric, worked very well at the time, I don't see why that would not work well with Oricutron indeed :)

The main problem I had was that only one snapshot was supported, so I had to trick with the default working directory so each game would have their own snapshot file :)

Re: Oricutron disks and tapes

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:57 pm
by Steve M
Great idea - I hadn't thought of this!