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Searching for Krystal Worlds (edited by OUM)

Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 7:25 am
by coco.oric
Hello,

We have some missing games on oric.org. One of them is Krystal Worlds (the first one). Steve has found and shared some informations about the game but i've not this one and it seems that there's no backup of this game in the wolrd.

Does anobody has this tap or dsk file (or even able to digitalize this one) ?
It should have been edited by OUM alias Mirage Software, and programmed by Robert Cook.

Thanks a lot.
Didier

Re: Searching for Krystal Worlds (edited by OUM)

Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 3:37 pm
by Chema
Never heard of that one. Maybe released too late, when there was no more information or news about the computer here in Spain.

I already mentioned it, I think, but I once saw an educational software called Quimioric or Quimoric. Does anybody remember it?

Re: Searching for Krystal Worlds (edited by OUM)

Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 5:32 pm
by coco.oric
I've found a Quimoric advert in MicroHobby 027 (spanish mag), with some games sold by "Software Center" in Barcelona but ... that's all.
No tap file in my archive
Sorry

Re: Searching for Krystal Worlds (edited by OUM)

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 7:11 am
by robcook
Sorry, guys, I have no copies. KW1 was Quilled, so perhaps not portable to disk or emulator? I don't think I've ever seen an Oric Quilled game make it to a non-tape format, but I could be wrong there...

Re: Searching for Krystal Worlds (edited by OUM)

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 7:52 am
by Chema
@coco.oric Ah, too bad. I think this one is a real Missing In Action.

@robcook sorry for the silly question but what does "Quilled" mean? Which other Oric games were "quilled"? :?:

Re: Searching for Krystal Worlds (edited by OUM)

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 12:02 pm
by Symoon
The Quill was a program designed to make adventure games. Transfered it but never used it.

Anyway I think Quilled means the game was made with The Quill ;)

EDIT: I thought I had games using The Quill, but apparently not after a 1st quick search.

Re: Searching for Krystal Worlds (edited by OUM)

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 12:36 pm
by iss
This is very interesting! Thanks for sharing.
EDIT: Two download links: on oric.org tap file, inlay and scanned manual,
and HERE 13MB zip file containing the same tap file and Quill_(Oric)_Manual.pdf.

Re: Searching for Krystal Worlds (edited by OUM)

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 1:01 pm
by Chema
Ah, the name rings a bell! But why wouldn't those games be transferred to tap or dsk?

Re: Searching for Krystal Worlds (edited by OUM)

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 1:04 pm
by Symoon
Are you sure there's no manuals on Oric.org ?
I scanned them, but maybe didn't put them online yet... (can't check from work, oric.org banned)

EDIT: yes, everything is on Oric.org, just just have to scroll down to the "stuff"section (you need to be logged in 1st, though)

Re: Searching for Krystal Worlds (edited by OUM)

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 2:00 pm
by robcook
Yes, sorry for not clarifying. The Quill was a brilliant adventure-writing system. A fantastic bit of software, later eclipsed on other micros by GAC Graphic Adventure Creator, as The Quill was text only.

Re: Searching for Krystal Worlds (edited by OUM)

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 4:30 pm
by Chema
For what I read, it was the precession of PAWS (Professional Adventure Writing System) which incidentally I used on the Spectrum :D

If shares some concepts, and I agree it was a fantastic piece of software, very easy to use and quite powerful for the day!

Did not know it existed for the Oric... Does anyone know any game written with it (available, that is)?

Re: Searching for Krystal Worlds (edited by OUM)

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 10:29 pm
by coco.oric
Well, i hope that we'll be able to find KW1 and digitalize it.
I didn't know the gilsoft adventure system. Thanks iss for the link

Re: Searching for Krystal Worlds (edited by OUM)

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:26 pm
by coolman66
i dont know exactly what your looking for but i have a program called krystal worlds on my PC could it be what yor looking for . there sees to be two parts but i can only get one , the KW 2 to work, as im now 76 my ability understand the complexaty of running the emulater is minimal , but i could try if you whant !

Re: Searching for Krystal Worlds (edited by OUM)

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:27 am
by coco.oric
Hello Coolman66.
Yes can you post your tap (all kw files). i don't think that it's the good one because kw2 has several parts on the tap.

part 1 KW2LOADER.PT1/ KW.001/KW1.BAS
part 2 KW2

but the oric.org file of kw2 is also infested of bugs. so we can look if your file is different
thanks a lot
Didier

Re: Searching for Krystal Worlds (edited by OUM)

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:54 pm
by Dom
Hello,
This is a special post to train robcook's memory :)
As you are the author of Krytal Worlds II in 1996 (only more than 20 years yet), you surely remember, Rob, the meaning of this message:

DSIOJ LIQUID HESE , found somwhere in the game, don't you ?

We, (Symoon, Laurentd75 and I) think this means: DRINK LIQUID HERE
but we are wondering if there was a code to translate the message or if we are in front of transferts bugs.
R transformed in S , N transformed in O and K transformed in J, in these three cases, it may be a transfert error on the b0 of the ASCCI code.

And perheaps more clearely: Do you write the message in clear English or do you propose a puzzle ?
and susidiairy question: if it was a puzzle, could you give us, the key of this enigma ? :)